"Evidently, then, Mrs. Bailey and the "Tibetan" consider
the scheme of evolution offered in the Secret Doctrine as inadequate, and offer their own in its place. Apart from the difficulty
of discovering anything "systemic" at all in Cosmic Fire, it is quite clear that the "Tibetan" (if he is really one) is not
in agreement with the Trans-Himalayan Brotherhood. In that case one would infer from what is said in the Mahatma Letters that
he may belong to the "Red Capped Brothers of the Shadow" (see Index under Dugpas). As K.H. says (p. 322): "the opposition
represents enormous vested interests, and they have enthusiastic help from the Dugpas - in Bhutan and the Vatican!" Hence
the Christian terminology that characterizes some of their efforts in the realm of Occultism." Alice Leighton Cleather. Basil
Crump. Peking, February, 1929.
Message #41912 Theos-talk Forum
"Evidently, then, Mrs. Bailey and the "Tibetan" consider the scheme of evolution offered in the Secret Doctrine as inadequate,
and offer their own in its place. Apart from the difficulty of discovering anything "systemic" at all in Cosmic Fire, it is
quite clear that the "Tibetan" (if he is really one) is not in agreement with the Trans-Himalayan Brotherhood. In that case
one would infer from what is said in the Mahatma Letters that he may belong to the "Red Capped Brothers of the Shadow" (see
Index under Dugpas). As K.H. says (p. 322): "the opposition represents enormous vested interests, and they have enthusiastic
help from the Dugpas - in Bhutan and the Vatican!" Hence the Christian terminology that characterizes some of their efforts
in the realm of Occultism." Alice Leighton Cleather. Basil Crump. Peking, February, 1929.
JPC: Cleather and Crump make enormous leaps of the imagination resulting in an attack on the Teachings of AAB and
the Tibetan DK. This is indicated as follows "The harm attempted on my Ashram has been more easily offset, and the source
of hate which it represented failed in its attempt because of its general ill repute. It has been offset by love and understanding
which is not so easily the case in a first ray attack." The above may not be the attack referred to be the Tibetan DK though
could well represent similar. Love and understanding are key notes here used in this critique.
Nowhere does AAB say or infer that the work of HPB is "inadequate" and this appears an invention of the writers Crump
and Cleather. AAB does draw to the attention of the reader that HPB' work is preparatory and AAB' 'intermediate'. HPB states
"These two volumes only constitute the work of a pioneer who has forced his way into the well-nigh impenetrable jungle of
the virgin forests of the Land of the Occult. A commencement has been made..." It is also drawn to the readers attention in
AAB' works that HPB herself indicates that she 'turned the first key and no further' and that in century the twentieth another
disciple far better fitted will come.
"One turn of the key, and no more, was given in "Isis." Much more is explained in these volumes. In those days the
writer hardly knew the language in which the work was written, and the disclosure of many things, freely spoken about now,
was forbidden. In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters of
Wisdom to give final and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya." SD1 xxxviii INTRODUCTORY. HPB.
JPC: The term 'God' is presented for a western audience. It is representative of "Good" or graded logos. It is a
generic term for a western audience and no more although detailed explanation of 'logi' are given so far as allowed for the
second phase of the teachings. Ray two is named in sanskrit "Harikesa" yellow or golden haired being one understanding of
the second ray ruling the Sun itself, and is given by HPB although this is disputed by Cleather and Crump. From their above
works they say in disput "One may search in vain for Mrs. Bailey's "Ray of Love-Wisdom" in the S.D., and the references (p.
74) given to it concerning the "Love aspect of the Logos" contain nothing of the kind."
One must recall that the works of AAB brought a great expansion of detail on the seven rays. HPB stated "Fohat, in his
capacity of DIVINE LOVE (Eros)." This is a reference to Fohat and the seven rays in his capacity as Love-Wisdom and the second
great ray breath. Harikesa is clearly the second ray of love-wisdom that Cleather and Crump have missed yet have condemned
all the same. Caution is needed where condemnation to the left hand path is made.
"The names of the Seven Rays -- which are, Sushumna, Harikesa, Viswakarman, Viswatryarchas, Sannaddha, Sarvavasu
and Swaraj." SD1 515.
Sushumnā (Sk.). The solar ray—the first of the seven rays. Also the name of a spinal nerve which connects the
heart with the Brahmarandra, and plays a most important part in Yoga practices.
Svarāj (Sk.). The last or seventh (synthetical) ray of the seven solar rays; the same as Brahmā. These seven rays
are the entire gamut of the seven occult forces (or gods) of nature, as their respective names well prove. These are: Sushumnā
(the ray which transmits sunlight to the moon); Harikesha, Visvakarman, Visvatryarchas, Sannadhas, Sarvāvasu, and Svarāj.
As each stands for one of the creative gods or Forces, it is easy to see how important were the functions of the sun in the
eyes of antiquity, and why it was deified by the profane. Theosophical Glossary.
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JC: HPB stated... "The teaching is offered as it is understood; and as there are seven keys of interpretation to every
symbol and allegory, that which may not fit a meaning, say from the psychological or astronomical aspect, will be found quite
correct from the physical or metaphysical." SD2 22.
"One turn of the key, and no more, was given in "Isis." Much more is explained in these volumes. In those days the writer
hardly knew the language in which the work was written, and the disclosure of many things, freely spoken about now, was forbidden.
In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give
final and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya." SD1 xxxviii INTRODUCTORY. HPB.
"In A Treatise on Cosmic Fire the Tibetan has given us what H. P. Blavatsky prophesied he would give, namely, the psychological
key to the Cosmic Creation. H.P.B. stated that in the 20th century a disciple would come who would give the psychological
key to her own monumental work The Secret Doctrine on which treatise the Tibetan worked with her; and Alice A. Bailey worked
in complete recognition of her own task in this sequence." TCF viii.
JPC: There is no claim other than full recognition of this fact and in sequence the second phase or turning of the second
psychological key was completed as prophesised by HPB for "Century the Twentieth".
Your 'Cleather' reference, as a reliable source appears to be quite inadequate so far. I have aimed to show that where
the claim of "phoney quotes" as you say appear, I will attempt to show that that it is a false claim. I gave one example in
a previous letter. I gave another in my last letter, So far Crump has demonstrated his inability to substantiate that statement.
But he and Cleather has highlighted the fact that they do not understand the works of HPB or AAB.
The words of Crump on "Seven centres of Logoic Force" being "designed very cleverly to lead the student away from the
real teaching and confuse his mind" is falsity and does not stand up to reality of "seven Dhyan-Chohanic centres of Force"
SD2 739. Be it Logoic or Dhyan-Chohanic for both are the same, the distribution of solar fire through out the centres of the
Solar logos and through the heavenly men throughout the system is a part of the teachings given us. It would be wise to study
the occult teachings before you copy Cleather and Crump with your claim of "malfeisance". It is offered "as understood" and
on a "hypothetical" basis in the least.
"...Contrast alone can enable us to appreciate things at their right value; and unless a judge compares notes and hears
both sides he can hardly come to a correct decision." H.P. Blavatsky. The Theosophist, July, 1881, p. 218.
JPC: So the work of TCF explains the greater psychological meaning or revelation of the entities in the works of
HPB. What is "phoney" according to you or your earlier detractors, about that. It is an expansion on previous work that complements
it and references it and was a direct prediction recorded in the Secret Doctrine by HPB herself. Of course, the below from
'A Treatise on Cosmic Fire' is just a fraction and merely serves as a snippet of the expansive work on the psychological nature
of the entities of the solar system and Universe. Immediately below we see a SD quote referenced by AAB. From the edition
I have of SD it is wrongly numbered but appears on page 107 rather than 132.
HPB informs she brought the first completely 'Physical or physiological key' and much historical information with the
later deeper psychological elucidation coming via AAB that "disciple far better fitted" according to HPB. That second key
expands on the psychological entities and seven rays throughout her books and "Treatise on the Seven rays". It is indication
of prediction and occurance in factuality.
To give an example reference quote in brief composition from TCF you claim phony. "12. They are all men, the product
of other worlds. - S. D., I, 132." TCF 273.
"The Mind-born Sons, the Rishis, the Builders, etc., were all men -- of whatever forms and shapes -- in other worlds
and the preceding Manvantaras. This subject, being so very mystical, is therefore the most difficult to explain in all its
details and bearings; since the whole mystery of evolutionary creation is contained in it." SD1 107.
"These three aspects of God, the solar Logos, and the Central Energy or Force (for the terms are occultly synonymous)
demonstrate through seven centers of force, - three major centers and four minor. These seven centers of logoic Force are
themselves so constituted that they form corporate Entities. They are known
as
* The seven planetary Logoi.
* The
seven Spirits before the Throne.
* The seven Rays.
* The seven Heavenly Men.
The Seven Logoi embody seven types of differentiated force, and in this Treatise are known under the names of Lords
of the Rays. The names of the Rays are
* Ray I - Ray of Will or Power - 1st Aspect
* Ray II - Ray of Love-Wisdom - 2nd Aspect
* Ray III - Ray of Active
Intelligence - 3rd Aspect
(These are the major Rays.)
* Ray IV - Ray of Harmony, Beauty and Art.
* Ray V - Ray of
Concrete Knowledge or Science.
* Ray VI - Ray of Devotion or of Abstract Idealism.
* Ray VII - Ray of Ceremonial Magic
or Order." TCF 5.
"seven Dhyan-Chohanic centres of Force" SD2 739.
"seven Dhyan Chohans." SD2 765.
"seven procreative rays or powers (the logoi or builders)." SD1 80.
"* ...The center or Heavenly Man with Whom the Logos of their scheme is allied;
* Which two schemes form, with their
own, a triangle for logoic force at a certain stage of evolutionary development;
* The secret of the cycles, or the periods
of stimulation or obscuration; then will the body logoic begin to achieve its purpose; then will the Logos of our system begin
to blend and merge and coordinate all His vehicles; then will the force flow through all the centers unimpeded; and then will
the glory shine out, and each cell in every body - logoic, planetary, deva and human, blaze forth with perfected glory, vibrate
with adjusted accuracy, and a major cosmic
initiation be taken." TCF 360. AAB.
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Date: Fri Feb 3, 2012 2:28 pm ((PST))
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NOTES ON A TREATISE ON COSMIC FIRE
- By Basil Crump
Introductory Postulates
"These are stated to be
"extensions of the three fundamentals to be found in the Proem in the first volume of The Secret Doctrine by H.P. Blavatsky."
But in reality Mrs. Bailey develops whole cosmic scheme of her own, which includes a new set of so-called Stanzas of Dzyan,
a Solar Logos also called "God," a Triple Solar System consisting of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, a Triple Human Being, and
a triple Atom. Also Seven centres of Logoic Force, and Seven Rays which include those of "Love -Wisdom," "Harmony," "Beauty
and Art," and "Devotion and Abstract Idealism."
"The reader is constantly referred to passages in the Secret Doctrine, but very few of the terms used, e.g., "Love-Wisdom,"
"Abstract Idealism," "Logoic," etc. ,etc., will be found there. (1) My impression is that this is done to mislead the student
into thinking that this work is on H.P. Blavatsky's lines, whereas even a cursory examination shows that it is entirely different
and is really designed very cleverly to lead the student away from the real teaching and confuse his mind with an imposing
mass of apparently very learned information which really means little or nothing and leads nowhere. The method is somewhat
similar to, but less obvious and more clever than, that of C. W. Leadbeater, but I think that the power behind is the same,
working with the same object on a different line for a more intellectual type of mind. It is of considerable significance
that Leadbeater and Mrs. Besant are frequently quoted, and their Christ and World Teacher doctrines taken for granted." Victor
Endersby. Special Paper, September 1963. A-Critique-of-Alice-Bailey-Endersby.
JPC: 7. On the three fundamentals of the SD AAB writes... "Students are recommended to study them carefully; in this
way their understanding of the Treatise will be greatly aided.TCF3." The Tibetan Master states..."These postulates are simply
extensions of the three fundamentals to be found in the Proem in the first volume of the Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky
(S.D., I, 42-44)". The postulates spoken of are the "Introductory postulates" of 'A Treatise on Cosmic Fire'. I strongly advise
all students to read them and not to condemn them.
This is because HPB herself advises that her two volume books on the 'Secret Doctrine' do not "complete the scheme" or
"treat exhaustively of the subjects dealt with in them" for they were a "PROLOGUE" to "prepare the readers mind" and this
is due to predicted further work from her which largely didnt come and due to her personal prediction of final proof of the
existence of the Gupta Veda per the twentieth century disciple to come . As the work of AAB was predicted by HPB to come in
century the twentieth and that that disciple would be "far better fitted" it is only natural and logical that accordingly
the "postulates are simply extensions of the three fundamentals to be found in the Proem in the first volume of the Secret
Doctrine." These were predicted to come by HPB' own words.
Again, she stated that her work was not "the Secret Doctrine in its entirety, but a select number of fragments of its
fundamental tenets." HPB even emphasises the fact that this is "needless to explain". One must then wonder why Basil Crump
states in his and Cleathers defamation of trans himalayan teachings that "Mrs. Bailey develops whole cosmic scheme of her
own". Had he or they read HPB' work correctly Crump and Cleather would understand what HPB wrote and possibly why she wrote
it. They would conclude that AAB' work was the predicted second phase second key dissemination of the secret doctrine from
a "disciple far better fitted" according to her own referenced words.
HPB predicted in that coming work that the second psychological key will be turned just as she turned the first key "and
no more". Crump and Cleather do not understand this but rather condemn the trans himalayan work to the red caps and left hand
path, "the power behind" saying it "means little or nothing and leads nowhere." This is copied and replicated by later students
of theosophy to this day. HPB said that the work was "to gigantic for one persone to accomplish" and that she "prepared the
soil" for a later predicted disciple to come with a further installment, a karmic installment both in service to humanity.
"Even the two volumes now issued do not complete the scheme, and these do not treat exhaustively of the subjects dealt
with in them." SD1 vii.
"It is needless to explain that this book is not the Secret Doctrine in its entirety, but a select number of fragments
of its fundamental tenets, special attention being paid to some facts which have been seized upon by various writers, and
distorted out of all resemblance to the truth." SD1 viii.
"It is almost unnecessary to state that only portions of the seven Stanzas are here given. Were they published complete
they would remain incomprehensible to all save the few higher occultists." SD1 23.
"One turn of the key, and no more, was given in "Isis." Much more is explained in these volumes. In those days the writer
hardly knew the language in which the work was written, and the disclosure of many things, freely spoken about now, was forbidden.
In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give
final and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya." SD1 xxxviii INTRODUCTORY. HPB.
"But these two volumes had to serve as a PROLOGUE, and prepare the reader's mind for those which shall now follow. In
treating of Cosmogony and then of the Anthropogenesis of mankind..." SD2 797.
"The work is too gigantic for any one person to undertake, far more to accomplish. Our main concern was simply to prepare
the soil. This, we trust we have done." SD2 797.
"...Contrast alone can enable us to appreciate things at their right value; and unless a judge compares notes and hears
both sides he can hardly come to a correct decision." H.P. Blavatsky. The Theosophist, July, 1881, p. 218.
JPC.
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